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New user, questions about Exult

Author: Zach  Date:   02-16-12 21:39 First off, I cannot play Ultima 7 in fullscreen mode without Exult, so this really helps my Ultima 7 experience since this is the first time I've played the game. I do have some questions/concerns about Exult since I'm pretty much forced to use it unless I want to play in windowed mode. As I said before this is the first time I've played the game so I'm curious as to what Exult changes other than new options? Will I miss out on anything by using Exult instead of the vanilla game and is there anything I should worry about other than that "disappearing bug"? Thanks.

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: Dominus  Date:   02-16-12 22:33 http://exult.sourceforge.net/faq.php#improvements and you will miss out on fabulous bugs that made U7 fun for some people. I'm all for using Exult but these days, through Dosbox, one isn't forced to run U7 in windowed mode. -- Read the documentation and the FAQ are your friends! There is no excuse for not reading them! RTFM Read the Rules! We do not support Piracy/Abandonware/Warez!

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: TDI (---.versanet.de) Date:   02-16-12 22:46 It's hard to say. The plus side of using Exult is that in addition to the new features, many game and plot bugs have been fixed, especially in SI. On the negative side, I haven't tried Exult in a while (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but there seem to be some critical bugs on the loose at the moment which might break your game. Also some things such as NPC behaviour and combat have never reached the "fluidity" of the original. A compromise would be to play Black Gate with Dosbox and Serpent Isle with Exult. I would recommend this order because this way you get a feel for what the original is like, and profit from the many plot bugs that were fixed in SI.

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: Zach  Date:   02-16-12 22:53 Well, I cant run it in fullscreen with dosbox. When I do, it only shows the top half of the game and even then it freezes like that. In windowed mode however I have no problem.

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: TDI (---.versanet.de) Date:   02-16-12 22:54 You'll have to forego the nice SI paperdolls in Black Gate, but as compensation you'll get to pack a crate on your back which fits much more stuff than an ordinary backpack. ;)

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: TDI (---.versanet.de) Date:   02-16-12 22:59 >"Well, I cant run it in fullscreen with dosbox. When I do, it only shows the top half of the game and even then it freezes like that. In windowed mode however I have no problem." Weird. Try setting these settings in the dosbox.conf file. Especially the "scaler=hq3x" part. U7 works just fine for me under these settings. frameskip=0 aspect=false scaler=hq3x ... core=auto cputype=auto cycles=12000 cycleup=500 cycledown=20 ... xms=true ems=false umb=true

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: Zach  Date:   02-16-12 23:09 It didnt work. :( I have other DOS games too (from GoG) that also refuses to work in fullscreen mode, so its not just an Ultima problem. Some work, some dont. Unfortunately.

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: TDI (---.versanet.de) Date:   02-16-12 23:20 Hmm weird. The only other thing I can think of is that you're using an old Dosbox version (current is 0.74, I'm using 0.73 however - haven't updated yet). If you want to keep on experimenting, here's the entirety of my dosbox.conf file as it works with U7. Note that I always start dosbox in windowed mode (fullscreen=false) and then switch to fullscreen using Alt+Enter when I want it. [sdl] fullscreen=false fulldouble=false fullresolution=original windowresolution=original output=surface autolock=true sensitivity=100 waitonerror=true priority=higher,normal mapperfile=mapper.txt usescancodes=true [dosbox] language= machine=svga_s3 captures=capture memsize=16 [render] frameskip=0 aspect=false scaler=hq3x [cpu] core=auto cputype=auto cycles=12000 cycleup=500 cycledown=20 [mixer] nosound=false rate=22050 blocksize=2048 prebuffer=10 [midi] mpu401=intelligent mididevice=default midiconfig= [sblaster] sbtype=sb16 sbbase=220 irq=7 dma=1 hdma=5 sbmixer=true oplmode=auto oplemu=default oplrate=22050 [gus] gus=false gusrate=22050 gusbase=240 gusirq=5 gusdma=3 ultradir=C:\ULTRASND [speaker] pcspeaker=true pcrate=22050 tandy=auto tandyrate=22050 disney=true [joystick] joysticktype=auto timed=true autofire=false swap34=false buttonwrap=true [serial] serial1=dummy serial2=dummy serial3=disabled serial4=disabled [dos] xms=true ems=false umb=true keyboardlayout=auto [ipx] ipx=true [autoexec]

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: DominusMobile2  Date:   02-17-12 00:47 The common cure fir dosbox display problems is to really update to the latest graphics drivers (from the maker and not the ones you get from windows update) and then change output in dosbox' config. Works everytime -- Read the documentation and the FAQ are your friends! There is no excuse for not reading them! RTFM Read the Rules! We do not support Piracy/Abandonware/Warez!

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: Zach  Date:   02-17-12 03:51 Thanks for the suggestions but the tweaks didn't help any. About the drivers, I think they are updated but since I'm using an HP laptop and how everything is set up, I can't get driver updates from AMD (even though I have an AMD gpu) I have to get the update from HP themselves, so for all I know I do have the latest drivers. I suppose I could just get used to it windowed, and if I like the game enough play through it again with Exult.

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: DominusMobile1  Date:   02-17-12 06:57 Still take look if hp offers newer ones. Your description sounds like driver problems. And try the different output settings in dosbox config... -- Read the documentation and the FAQ are your friends! There is no excuse for not reading them! RTFM Read the Rules! We do not support Piracy/Abandonware/Warez!

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Re: New user, questions about Exult

Author: Zach  Date:   02-17-12 16:16 I set the output to ddraw and that fixed the problem, thanks again for the help.

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