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 why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: matt (---.mnhwkn01.nj.comcast.net)
Date:   06-24-03 09:59

Ultima 9 pretty much sucked... It took me years to figure out what I liked so much about the Ultima games but I finally did... That "real world" feel, freedom to go any where and do goofy things (i.e. killing towns people in their sleep in Ultima 6). Ultimas 5-7 had great atmosphere and real world feel... Ultima 9 stripped too many of these things back (Britain had a population of like 12??). Graphics were good, but a realistic world would have been much better.... Who knows what EA can do with it? I don't even care what the story is if it attempts a living breathing "Ultima" world.

end of pontification

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: matt (---.mnhwkn01.nj.comcast.net)
Date:   06-24-03 10:04

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/ultimaonlineageofshadows/news_6030480.html

hmmmm.....

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Artaxerxes 
Date:   06-24-03 10:13

by the way, are you happy to have EA WITHOUT Garriott doing Ultima X?

Because you title is "without LB might not be a bad thing" ~ "without LB might be a good thing".

Artaxerxes

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: fliptw 
Date:   06-24-03 11:04

U9 was a crap ulitma because EA forced it out the door.

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Trevor_Clim 
Date:   06-24-03 11:38

hmm Ultima X will be a MMORPG, but with EA and without Garriott.

Tabula Rasa will be a MMORG, but without EA and with Garriott.

So ok lets think basically: Which game will be more Ultima-like?

hehe :D

Ok, and by the way Tabula Rasa has not its work title useless ;)
it WILL be a new MMORPG-experience. Garriott want to make a MMORPG just from the beginning, totally new.

And the facts, which are released already, go in this direction!
(party-adventures, central world, etc.)

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Andy 
Date:   06-24-03 11:42

Well, that, and also Ultima Online stripped U9 of its original production team. Frankly, I'm suprised it got out the door in as good of condition as it did. Alone, U9 is a fairly good game. It fails in that it is vaguely connected with previous Ultimas. It started out as a concise 'dream', and then was pulled apart by the new team into their 'dream.' For its time Ultima 9 was the cutting edge, but too much of Ultima's past was also left on the cutting room floor, or revisioned. This led to an unreal Ultima feel, because many things were different plotwise, and the player couldn't rely on his/her memory, but the story that was put forth in U9 (which wasn't a bad story, but still was not consistent with previous Ultimas).

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Neo (---.sttl.uswest.net)
Date:   06-24-03 12:05

Ultima X will not be an MMORPG, the Gamespot interview concluded very concretely Origin/EA will NOT release any games that compete with Ultima Online. If they are developing Ultima X (and the interview's response was a "no comment" in regard to that game) it will be primarily a single-player game, none of this pay-per-play bullshit.

- Neo

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Trevor_Clim 
Date:   06-24-03 12:22

as far as my sources, it will be a MMORPG witch propably uses the Unreal Warfare Engine.

"Laut Gerüchten, die die Fansite UO Stratics in einem amerikanischen Spielemagazin aufgeschnappt hat, arbeitet Electronic Arts bereits seit über einem Jahr an Ultima X. Dabei soll keine Fortsetzung der Ultima-Reihe entstehen, sondern ein Online-Rollenspiel. Ähnlich wie Lineage 2 wird der Titel wahrscheinlich die Unreal-Warfare-Engine als Grafikuntersatz benutzen. Weitere Details sind nicht bekannt. " (gamestar.de)

bad translation by me: (only important content)
"The Fansite UO got rumors from an american game-magazine:
EA works on Ultima X for one year now, it will be no sequel to the original Ultima-serie, it will be a Online-RPG.
Similiar to Lineage 2 it will use the Unreal-Warfare Engine
Further Details are not public."

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: wjp 
Date:   06-24-03 12:30

This is a rumour that is rumoured to be an April Fools joke :-)

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Trevor_Clim 
Date:   06-24-03 13:05

an april fools joke in May o_O
a little bit strange, hmm?
or am i totally wrong!? :D

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: fliptw 
Date:   06-24-03 13:50

Ulitma X sounds like an expansion to UO, rather than an anything else.

EA is unlikely to go for another origin project that takes longer than 2 years to finish

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: DrCode (---.mentorg.com)
Date:   06-24-03 15:46

Thinking about what makes U7 a 'living, breathing world', I'd say it's a couple of things:

1. They put an enormous effort into creating scripts for nearly every possible object and action (the Usecode).
2. They did a large amount of coding for NPC 'schedules'.

These things could be done for any RPG.

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Sergorn (---.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr)
Date:   06-24-03 15:55

Ultima X *is* a online RPG. It has been in develpment for almost two years now; under the codename "UO2.0". Don't expect EA to release another single player Ultima: they won't, specially after the flop that Ultima IX made - and their comment about not wanting to compete with UO don't mean anything; that's also what they said with UO2/UWOO "don't worry it's not competing with UO" - the thing is though is that no matter how hard they want to keep UO; they *have* to release a new MMORPG if they don't want to be overrun by their competitors.

As for Tabula Rasa, it will be an Online RPG, but *not* a Massively Multiplayer RPG. You can check out this (short) latest interview of Lord British at RPGdot. http://www.rpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10053&ID=601

-Sergorn

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Trevor_Clim 
Date:   06-25-03 02:47

hmm, i know rumors that Ultima X IS NOT Ultima Online 2, which had been cancelled.

So Tabula Rasa is not a real MMORPG, but not a normal RPG with online part, too. It's something between... Because there is a center world where ALL players on the server meet, but also the adventures take part in extra worlds, where only a few human players are...

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Noviere (---.mpoweredpc.net)
Date:   06-25-03 04:04

Maybe I'm being naive, but after reading the piece at Gamespot, I'm really hoping the game will be a sequel to 9. I'm dying for a single-player Ultima. It's been soooo long since I was allowed to play a good one. Even if it is by EA :P

I miss Britannia. I want to become the next Avatar ;)

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Neo (---.sttl.uswest.net)
Date:   06-28-03 10:36

Maybe we return to Pagan in X? Wouldn't that be fun.

- Neo

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: DrCode (---.mentorg.com)
Date:   06-30-03 08:19

If they wanted to revive the series, they could always try to contract with RG's company, or even hire back some of the seasoned Ultima developers like Ken Demerest.

I have a feeling, though, that EA is only interested in online games.

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 Re: why Ultima X w/o Lord British might not be a bad thing
Author: Jiles (---.cust11.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au)
Date:   07-01-03 04:51

I hope it's a 3rd person action adventure game in the vein of BG:DA

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